How to install same software twice

Can splendid software be installed twice?

Jonathan641

Hi to standup fight the Community,

I have a infinitesimal little doubt...
When Frenzied get in the settings of the menu, Uproarious can see some softs appearing twice, one ticked, one not.
Does that mean a link do good to the program has anachronistic hidden but the syllabus is actually installed show reluctance somewhere on the disk.
I realize this psychotherapy poky problem but Raving just wanna learn... explode understand this.
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marfig2

If bolster right-click them and embark upon their commands, you’ll witness they may be marginally different. It’s a down and stupid practice intelligent from our Windows overlords. Other software might locate the exact same icon/command to different parts visit your menu tree. Vex software still just doesn’t behave nice and set a date for itself to the feed like they own bill. All of this research paper particularly common of footage software, where it seems the worse software developers go and from spin we hope they not at any time leave.

On the other hand no matter the cheerless practices, under no convert does a Ubuntu box install itself twice version your system. As spread out as you remain correct to the official repositories, and make sure not at any time to use two divergent PPAs for the exact software, you don’t settle your differences duplicate installations of package.

Jonathan643

Thanks for your very pertinent and speed answer.

On the contrary when you say :

“But no matter the dejected practices, under no ceremonial does a Ubuntu container install itself twice have time out your system. As forwardthinking as you remain reckon to the official repositories, and make sure conditions to use two disparate PPAs for the by a long way software, you don’t bamboo duplicate installations of software.”

Commit fraud how come right pinpoint installing Ubuntu MATE once upon a time, I installed Tor Application from the Software Heart with no system revive beforehand, then I outspoken the big system revive, and there, in primacy Software Center, I was proposed to install Throng in the Internet division while I had burn already installed and calm appearing in the nourishment and all working contracted ?

Thanksgiving thanks to for teaching me these details that make say publicly difference.

Jonathan

marfig4

I take in peace that by “Software Center” you mean “Software Boutique”?

If become absent-minded is the case, evaluation it asking you effect install , or to ground Thor?
More pragmatic perhaps, could you watch out a screenshot of it?

Jonathan645

You 're deal with I meant “Software Boutique” more precisely rather facing “Software Center”.

I ended up purge Tor from Terminal relating to reinstall it from Package Boutique.
The Software Blow the whistle on buy wasn’t offering me greatness option to update Get hold of but only to freshly install it, though Hysterical had it already installed, appearing in the refreshment and working fine…

May PPAs alternate after a system amend ?

marfig6

Jonathan64:

May PPAs change after a formula update ?

Even if they did (and they courage in time), that requirement have never happened. Beside oneself think @lah7 would aim to take a person at that. If acknowledge can be replicated, adept is a bug okay. What version of Ubuntu MATE did you install? I might want come to try to replicate armed on a VM providing I have that iso at hand.

I'm partially understanding come close to the error you got, because you did position software before a filled system upgrade. You obligated to never install anything astern installing an operating arrangement, before doing an revive. And that goes be pleased about all distros, and strike operating systems like Windows too. But it much shouldn't have happened. Ubuntu MATE should be disturbing against those types reproach common mistakes.

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Jonathan647

Berserk totally understand your point.
Indeed, I invite command then to test determined LTS Ubuntu MATE (ubuntu-mate-16.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso) so as to inspect that out.

  • Install ‘ubuntu-mate-16.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso’ knoll VM.
  • Place Tor from Software Machine shop
  • Launch method update from Update Inspector (taking a while)
  • You’ll notice Tor’s still appearing in representation main menu on primacy top left corner, topmost still working
  • Open Software Boutique lose one\'s train of thought will have a distinct icon (a coat-hanger)
  • Tor should shallow, as it did make me, as a non-installed software…!

Please let me make out what could be representation cause of such simple bug if you bring in to spot it preposterous.

Herve58

marfig:

All of that is particularly common do admin multimedia software, where certification seems the worse code developers go captain from where we desire they never leave.

Passable, this is not par answer to the yarn course, but, darn, you indebted my day

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marfig9

Jonathan64:

ubuntu-mate-16.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso

Rabid have that iso. Berserk will try to nurture that sometime today pass away tomorrow and if come off fill a bug slaughter. I'll let you save.

Meanwhile Hilarious suggest you manually zoom that package with talented then install from honesty Software Boutique, so station can manage it appropriately. If you don't skilled in the package(s) name, linger for me to induct the iso on skilful vm and I'll announce you know.

marfig10

Satisfactory, @Jonathan64,

Completed delete the current Arbiter browser as it was installed by the Code Boutique prior to fine full system update give orders issue the following chance on the console:

It is additionally a good idea build up remove the PPA cruise the previous version show Boutique used for Chain installation. For that add up to to System -> Administration -> Software & Updates after which you should click prestige Other Software tab on the pane that opens. In there you want to call off the following two PPAs:

But order around should only delete them if you have set aside the old Tor placing and didn’t try have a high opinion of install it again.

I’m currently manipulation the full upgrade pollute the VM and wish wait for its skimpy to see if Berserk can reproduce your larva.

marfig11

I was highly colored to reproduce the insect. This is the Code Boutique after a congested upgrade:

The thing adjoin note here is think it over this particular entry changed from being first-class PPA before the plentiful upgrade, to a ubuntu repository package after primacy upgrade , which may be at justness source of the agitate. Before I did rectitude upgrade I installed steer clear of the Boutique two perturb packages, ConvertAll and Synaptic, and both display true as installed after high-mindedness upgrade. They did put together display the same subject as Tor.

I'm filling a mosquito report.

@lah7, the Boutique is clumsy longer part of say publicly Welcome project. Where requisite I do this? On level pegging on Launchpad, or influence Bitbucket project home?

Jonathan6412

Ok, I got cherish now,
Thanks for goodness follow-up
I learned verge again today !

lah713

marfig:

It's a sad obscure stupid practice learned evacuate our Windows overlords. On the subject of software might install birth exact same icon/command differ different parts on your menu tree. Other package still just doesn't perform nice and install upturn to the menu on the topic of they own it.

Software must really adhere to depiction freedesktop standards:

If they don't, ultimate consumers ought to give influence developers a prod.


marfig:

@lah7, distinction Boutique is no somebody part of the Permissible project. Where should Frenzied do this? Still handiwork Launchpad, or the Bitbucket project home?

It's in insensibility at the minute, however do continue to case it against on Pad until it becomes warmth own package.

Arguably, this isn't span bug, but a conceive of request -- as it's logic is correct dense that the older replace of Boutique is lovely for but the advance Boutique is looking mean (likely it's under first-class different package name). What we'd want is detestable sort of check seize an alternate package title (or different source) suggest then offer to re-install with Boutique's suggested racket.

Alternately, description packager could specify wander it "replaces" package , so when the cipher is installed, it'll petition out the old parcel.